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Πριν μερικα χρονια ο Ασκραιος,τεως αρχηγος του Ναυτικου κ. Λυμπερης,ενας σοβαρος και αξιολογος αντρας,ειπε στον τοτε Υπουργο Δημοσιας Ταξης κ.Παπαθεμελη,οτι στο χωριο του μιλιουνται τ' αρβανιτικα.Ο κυριος Παπαθεμελης εξανεστη και τον κατακεραυνωσε..ουτε γι'αστειο μην το λετε αυτο Ναυαρχε!Δεν ξερω τι του απαντησε ο κ.Λυμπερης,αλλα ξερω πως θα του απαντουσαν ο Μιαουλης η ο Κολοκοτρωνης.Αυτη η νοοτροπια ενδημει στη χωρα μας απ' αρχαιοτατων χρονων.Υπαρχουν μερικοι που υποτιμουν βαναυσα την λαικη Παραδοση η γενικα δεν μπορουν να εκτιμησουν αξιες ουσιαστικες,προσκολημενοι στο τρεχον και οικονομικο-κοινωνικα
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....οτι στο χωριο του μιλιουνται τ' αρβανιτικα.
.....ουτε γι'αστειο μην το λετε αυτο Ναυαρχε !!!!!!!!
....αλλα ξερω πως θα του απαντουσαν ο Μιαουλης η ο Κολοκοτρωνης !!!!!
Εγω
θα εβγαλαν το πιστολι ,και το σπαθι .....
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Με ενδιαφέρει πολύ το θέμα των αρβανιτών και της γλώσσας τους. Είμαι αρβανίτισσα και από τους δυο γονείς. Στο χωριό του πατέρα μου και του άντρα μου, 71 χρονών και 40 αντίστοιχα, μιλούν τα αρβανίτικα, μέχρι και τα μικρά παιδιά ακόμη και σήμερα. Όσοι, δε, είναι μέχρι και την ηλικία του άντρα μου, την είχαν για μητρική γλώσσα. Το χωριό λέγεται Λίμνες Αργολίδος και νομίζω αποτελεί μελέτη περίπτωσης για όποιον ενδιαφέρεται σχετικά.
Όποιος δε, έχει βιβλιογραφία για το θέμα της αρβανίτικης γλώσσας στην εκπαίδευση (εκτός από τα βιβλία που αναφέρθηκαν παραπάνω) θα παρακαλούσα να μου τη στείλει
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Albanian
Para disa vjetesh Askreasi(fshat), ish shefi i Marinës, z Liberis, një burrë serioz dhe i shquar, i tha ministrit të atëhershëm të Rendit Publik,i z.Papathemeli , që në fshatin e tij flitet arvanitika .Zoti . Papathemeli i pandjeshëm dhe gjithë shpërthyes .. as për shaka mos e thoni këtë admiral !
Nuk e di se si u përgjigj k.Lymperis, por unë e di se si do të përgjigjej Kolokotroni ose Miaouli.
Ky mentalitet mbizotëron në vendin tonë nga vite të lashta.
Ka disa të cilët nënvlerësojnë brutalisht traditën popullore dhe pergjithesisht nuk mund të vlerësojnë a e vlera thelbezore ,të ngjitur në të tanishmen sociale dhe ekonomike....
Shenim
Liberi u bë më vonë Komandant i Armates Greke
in English
A few years Askraios, former chief of the navy, Mr. Liberis, a serious and remarkable guy, he told the then Minister of Public Order k.Papathemeli, that in the village of a mile t 'Lord arvanitika.O Papathemelis exanesti and katakerafnose ..nor for 'not funny you say that Admiral! not know what he replied k.Lymperis, but I know how you would answer the Miaoulis Kolokotronis.Afti the mentality that is endemic in our country from ancient chronon.Yparchoun some who underestimatethe brutal tradition general can not be estimated values of effective, proskolimenoithe current social and economic
....that in the village of a mile t 'ARVANITIKA.(Albanian)
....gi'asteio not nor do you say that Admiral!!!
....I know but it would answer the Miaoulis Kolokotronis!!
I
you pulled a gun and sword .....
Note
Liberi later became Commander of the Greek Army
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Albanian
Më intereson shumë çështja e Arvanitëve dhe e gjuhës së tyre. Unë jam arvanitisa nga të dy prindërit. Në fshatin e babait tim dhe burrit tim, 71 dhe 40 vjeç respektivisht Arvanitika flasin dhe fëmijët e vegjël edhe sot. Ata, janë deri në moshën e burrit tim, e kishin si për gjuhë mëmë.Fshati quhet Limnes Argolidhas dhe unë mendoj se përbën një rast studimor për të gjithë të interesuarit e çështjes.
Kushdo që ajo ka literaturë në gjuhën Arvanite subjekt në arsim (me përjashtim të librave të përmendur më lart) do të jetë mirënjohës nëse ju dërgojë atë
English
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Very interested in the issue of Arvanites and language.
I arvanitissa from bothparents. In the village of my father and my husband, 71 and 40 years respectively .
Arvanitika speak up and young children even today. Those, it is up to the age of my husband, had a parent language. The village is called Argolis Lakes and I think acase study for anyone interested on.
Whoever it has literature on the subject Arvanite language in education (except forthe books mentioned above) would be grateful if you send it
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Kjo ishte tema ime e mbyllur për arsye politike në Phorum.gr .
Titulli ,i përkthyer nga greqishtja ishte :
Pikëllime arvanitësh
english
his was my topic closed for political reasons Phorum.gr.
The title, translated from the Greek was:
Arvanites tribulations
shume interesante
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